

In this soul-searching episode of Agenda Fluid, Ben and Donovan dive headfirst into the nebulous and often elusive concept of purpose. What starts as a conversation about finding daily motivation quickly spirals into memories of childhood, frustrations of adulthood, philosophical meanderings, and the existential weight of modern life. They unpack how purpose shifts over time—from the joy of Saturday morning cartoons to the exhaustion of chasing invoices and resetting printers.
Through stories of near-death experiences, working on home repairs, and psychedelic reflections, the hosts explore whether purpose is something grand and overarching or simply found in the everyday moments that feel real and fulfilling. Along the way, they wrestle with guilt, gratitude, burnout, and the strange comfort of shared disillusionment. There’s humor, vulnerability, and maybe even a little bit of healing.
It’s an honest, unfiltered conversation about what it means to do something that matters—even if it’s just mowing the lawn or watching monster movies with your kid. No conclusions. No life hacks. Just real talk about what keeps us getting out of bed.
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